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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • QuillcrestFalconer [he/him]
    hexbear
    35
    2 years ago

    Police in Berlin have banned a gathering in memory of Shireen Abu Akleh, claiming it posed a risk of anti-Semitism.

    It was organised by a Jewish group.

    Stay classy Germany

  • mrbigcheese [he/him]
    hexbear
    32
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    lol deranged liberals have found DSA post about Sweden and NATO and are going absolutely wild over it

    https://twitter.com/dsa_intl_comm/status/1525120090575884296

    https://twitter.com/dsa_intl_comm/status/1525120090575884296

    • sawne128 [he/him]
      hexbear
      8
      2 years ago

      As a Swede I feel so honored that American twitter users are standing up for my right to be forced to fight their proxy war.

      • mrbigcheese [he/him]
        hexbear
        8
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        lmfao according to liberals, dsa did an imperialism by supporting swedish socialists not joining nato

        https://twitter.com/sam_d_1995/status/1525530130042470401

        • sawne128 [he/him]
          hexbear
          8
          2 years ago

          The people of my country are being used as props in twitter neolib-posting. Like, they give 0 shit about us, only the interests of the US empire. Not a big fan!

          • mrbigcheese [he/him]
            hexbear
            6
            edit-2
            2 years ago

            they're fighting for your right of self determination of being able to join in on doing NATO imperialist war crimes

  • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
    hexbear
    30
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Ukraine is going to stage “Springtime for Bandera” and it will sweep Eurovision.

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    29
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    British Police Have Disturbingly Deceived Many Activists Into Romantic Relationships.

    Here's the TrueAnon eps STT mentioned

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/44747020

    https://www.patreon.com/posts/51826362

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        8
        2 years ago

        If you wrote up a list of all the evil things you could think of there's very little that British intelligence and security forces haven't done.

    • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
      hexbear
      7
      2 years ago

      This has been going on a long time. I read an article about an woman who had a kid with a guy and then he just disappeared. (I think it was in the 70's.) They immigrated Australia. The mom died never knowing what happened to him. The kid eventually found him though a DNA website and he had a whole other family that had no idea.

    • YuriMihalkov [comrade/them,any]
      hexbear
      18
      2 years ago

      At this point I think Macron can basically say whatever he wants. Even if his party doesn't win the parliamentary elections which it probably will, the French president has very strong powers regarding foreign policy.

      The German coalition government on the other hand has a much more difficult line to walk given its varying interests. The greens in particular seem to be rabid Atlanticists.

      • @W_Hexa_W
        hexbear
        3
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        deleted by creator

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
      hexagon
      M
      hexbear
      27
      2 years ago

      Summer of Rage? I'm hoping more of a Summer of Civility! When fundamental human rights are stripped away from you, that's not fair, sure, but responding violently to that makes them even worse than them! Peaceful protest is the only way to change society, such as... that time when... uhh...

  • buh [any]
    hexbear
    23
    2 years ago

    time for my daily dose of Dipshittery and Cope

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
    hexbear
    22
    2 years ago

    Wait so people actualy believed the story about the bridge crossing? I didn't bother looking into it because by the time I saw people commenting I just assumed it was whatever.

    But I decided to look at the DPA video because Alexander Mercouris decided to go back on the story on his update today. I thought it was unusual. Straight up lying about destroyed vehicles that look intact. Realy all the tanks are just parked along the road, what is the big deal?. The actual picture of the bridge has like maybe 4-5 actually destroyed vehicles and they were claiming 70+?

    First the failed invasion of the shitty island that doesn't matter because the west was desperate to make Putin's victory day a thing instead it was a routine celebration he didn't say anything(of course Parenti quote here).

    Now maybe half a dozen vehicles destroyed is being multiplied x10 to claim some sort of victory again?

    And DPA guy summed up my attitude as well like Russia is launching hundreds of missile strikes per week. I don't even bother looking at those reports anymore. Both sides are claiming thousands of vehicles destroyed despite only Russia providing reasonable evidence for it.

    But despite all of this they are still capturing more territory in the eastwhile the US/NATO is doing an Afghanistan/Iraq speedrun who knows they'll probably reach 1 trillion USD by the 12 month mark.

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
      hexagon
      M
      hexbear
      22
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Wait so people actualy believed the story about the bridge crossing? I didn’t bother looking into it because by the time I saw people commenting I just assumed it was whatever.

      I'm personally in a position where I like, want to believe Ukraine's points - possibly because the grinding weight of looking at every mainstream source and seeing the perspectives allowed to be reported by, well, US state propaganda, in the form of CNN and NBC and Bloomberg and so on; the range is between "Ukraine is winning really fucking hard" and "Ukraine is in a heroic stalemate" and literally nothing else - so some part of my brain is just going "well there must be SOMETHING there, Ukraine must be doing SOME kind of strategic movement that could potentially hypothetically be perceived as moving towards a wider goal of repelling Russia." But it's slowly being turned off as fake news reports come in over time, to the point where I saw the river crossing story and just went "fool me twenty times, shame on me, I won't believe it the twenty-first time." and didn't even really bother posting the articles, I just mentioned it offhand, and lo and behold, it was exaggerated.

      Like, the entire media understanding of this war is constructed based on a specific set of lies and exaggerations gathered from a carefully curated set of points that every media site is allowed to see, and all of that misinformation is built on the flimsy foundation of their incredibly poor understanding of what war actually looks like when you're not bombing innocent civilians in the desert with truly astounding amounts of airpower that is virtually uncounterable due to the technological disparity. Their brains, and the brains of almost the entire western population (and to be honest, even a fair proportion of genuine communists who probably should know better! And I'm including myself in the first month or so among that crowd!) have been utterly poisoned by America's wars and so they see a war that's gone on for less than 3 months(!) and think it's an agonizingly slow crawl. This warfare is much closer to something in the beginning of the 20th century than like, Iraq, or even Vietnam.

      Like, imagine if you transported the average redditor or whatever back to WW2 and he saw the battle plans of the western allies or the USSR! "Haha, get cucked idiot incompetent Russians, le cauldron is expected to take four months to form? Just admit you're losing already! Your river crossing at this specific location just failed? Guess the Nazis are winning again!" It's not even seeing the trees rather than the forest, it's seeing the leaves rather than the tree.

      • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
        hexbear
        9
        2 years ago

        “well there must be SOMETHING there, Ukraine must be doing SOME kind of strategic movement that could potentially hypothetically be perceived as moving towards a wider goal of repelling Russia.”

        This is what confuses me. Even a simple "we blew up a bridge and 70 tanks" turns out to be "we stopped a pontoon bridge at a specific spot and wrecked a few tanks" and that is what they report on. That is their biggest success? They correctly identified one potential crossing and managed to hit it at the right time. Its like the western media is cheering on a little league team who got to first base for the first time in half the season.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexbear
      5
      2 years ago

      "I believe in the workplace environment" says man who lives where he works.

    • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
      hexbear
      1
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Macron suggested Ukraine make a giant pizza to allow insects to rain from the sky says Bullwinkle.

      See? I can play mad libs too.

      this story is the new best reason to be vegan, so you avoid the spectre of cheese and get to keep working from home

      Hmm. Are you sure it's not actually a reason to load our boy Boris up with lots and lots and lots of cheese?

    • Yanqui_UXO [any]
      hexbear
      20
      2 years ago

      Azov battalion is still there, so the rumors are still rumors, but it seems very likely that there are some NATO officials there. So far, Azov's spokesperson in his videos and on twitter has asked Pope Francis, Elon Musk, Turkey, and even China for an "extraction" to a third country. Russia's position is the same: come out unarmed or don't.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        hexbear
        9
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        or don’t.

        Preferable outcome to be honest. Although the information that these people have might be valuable and you might be able to convince some to give up details about crimes of the others.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexbear
          9
          2 years ago

          It'd be good propaganda for Russia to put all these guys in front of a camera nd play connect the dots with the swastika tattoos.

        • Yanqui_UXO [any]
          hexbear
          7
          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Well that's exactly what I think the whole krefuffle is all about. Azov battalion knows too much, they've become toxic to Zelensky as the result, and Russia would actually very much like them alive for the potential intel. And trials.

  • jackal [he/him]
    hexbear
    19
    2 years ago

    So they really gave the Eurovision win to Ukraine, looking forward to that broadcast from Azovstal next year

    • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
      hexbear
      16
      2 years ago

      I can’t help but find it hilarious that the shitty-off-brand-Black-Eyed-Peas will be the public face of a regional TV network for a full year.

    • BattlemechPotemkin [he/him]
      hexbear
      10
      2 years ago

      The Ukrainians gave a call to action to help Azovstal at the end of their performance. The hosts proceeded to not hand them a mic for as long as possible.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      hexbear
      3
      2 years ago

      That's not in the Ukraine anymore and it's not going to be next year either.