October 17th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!

October 18th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!

Next update will be next Friday, but I'll be poking around the thread during that time. Next thread will go up on Monday like usual.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • SoyViking [he/him]
    hexbear
    79
    2 years ago

    British leader ousted in palace coup

    News are emerging from Great Britain that Liz Truss, the supreme leader of the hermit kingdom in the far west of Europe, has been forced to resign by forces in the ruling conservative party.

    Experts fear that the fledgling nation which has been marred by mismanagement and corruption since the end of the civil war in the 1990's, will be thrown into political turmoil over what seems to be an internal power struggle in the regime.

    A new supreme leader is scheduled to be appointed by the regime following a consultation of members of the ruling conservative party. Anglo-watchers are speculating that the ouster of Truss will make way for the rehabilitation of Boris Johnson, the disgraced firebrand strongman who was ousted earlier this year after similar turmoil in the regime.

  • Redcuban1959 [any]
    hexbear
    75
    2 years ago

    Imagine being Zelensky, your entire population is either starving or dying, your cities are being destroyed sending your entire country back to the stone age. But you go around doing photoshots and bazinga brain shit with your nazi buddies that will fucking kill you as soon as this war ends. What a fucking awful person.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
    hexbear
    72
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    I had a brain genius moment just now and looked up some numbers.

    During the height of his powers during WWII Bandera's OUN-B had 20,000 members

    The UPA had maybe 100,000 fighters

    The Red Army had seven million Ukrainians

    The Banderites of today proclaim Bandera as a great hero who fought for Ukrainian independence against the wicked Soviets. They never mention that the Soviets he was fighting against, the Soviets who crushed his fascist insurgent movement and ended his role in the Holocaust, were themselves Ukrainians. It's vital to the Banderite narrative that the Ukrainian Red Army soldiers who fought and died to save the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic from Nazis and scum like Bandera be written out of history, their monuments torn down, their names slandered or forgotten.

    "Soviet Occupation" my ass.

    I double checked and I'm seeing a couple of different numbers for Ukrainians in the Red Army. The low number is 4.5 million. The high number is 7 million. Either way the casualty numbers are horrific - As many as half of the Ukrainian Red Army soldiers may have died during the course of the war.

  • @solaranus
    hexbear
    63
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    deleted by creator

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
    hexbear
    59
    2 years ago

    Bloomberg : Twitter Tumbles as US Weighs Security Reviews for Musk Deals

    Biden administration officials are discussing whether the US should subject some of Elon Musk’s ventures to national security reviews, including the deal for Twitter Inc. and SpaceX’s Starlink satellite network, according to people familiar with the matter.

    This one's for anybody who wasn't convinced that Starlink is first and foremost a tool of the US military. Also Twitter is obviously considered a tool of western propaganda if all it takes is Musk suggesting a peace deal with Russia to make the White House want to tank the purchase.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
    hexbear
    56
    2 years ago

    The undersea communications cable between the Shetland Islands and the rest of Scotland has failed.

    You just can't leave things in the ocean these days.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
    hexbear
    55
    2 years ago

    Zelensky is going to publish a book with his wartime speeches this December. Respect the grift.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
    hexbear
    54
    2 years ago

    Westerners behaving like the literal parody of what they criticize.

    If you can't watch the video, imagine the most cartoonish way possible to cut someone mid sentence. she says the word hospital, screen goes to black and host says "sorry we lost her" lol.

    THE BROADCAST OF A JOURNALIST FROM FRANCE WAS CUT OFF WHEN SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE CRIMES OF UKRAINE⚡️

    BFMTV journalists wanted to know why the Russians were evacuating civilians from Kherson. Correspondent Anne-Laure Banse begins to explain that: "the city is currently regularly subjected to Ukrainian strikes that target infrastructure facilities such as hospitals." We will not find out what other infrastructure is the target of the Ukrainian army, communication was rudely interrupted. A coincidence? Or is reality bothering BFMTV executives?

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
    hexbear
    51
    2 years ago

    China watchers would see a photo of Xi eating a sandwich and decide that the topping including both meat and veggies means that Xi is signaling to his populace that his reign will be a balanced one.