Here is September 19th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 20th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 21st's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 23rd's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Here is September 24th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.
Links and Stuff
Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to the above list if you can, thank you.
Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins
Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)
Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.
Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.
Telegram Channels
Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.
Pro-Russian
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.
https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.
https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.
https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.
Pro-Ukraine
With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.
Last week's discussion post.
citation needed
https://t.me/mangopress/9954
Smuggling in and distributing 65 American automatic firearms
https://t.me/mangopress/9955
ISIS militants are involved in the protest and among the arrested rebels
https://t.me/mangopress/9946
Actual Iranian working class is protesting peacefully against the color revolutionaries, similar to what the Cuban people did after color revolt attempt there by reactionaries and compradors, the same class of people involved here
This is all happening right as Iran joins the SCO, becomes strong allies with Russia & moves its army to protect Armenia. Suddenly a bunch of Turkish and Salafist agitators have “legitimate concerns” about fake manufactured bullshit
Get real
Thanks, this was kinda what i was looking for.
:jesse-wtf:
I don't think the cause of the protests is some western plot. Like the laws there are legitimately Draconian for women. Could the protests be exacerbated by western intelligence? Sure. Are Iranians more militant bc sanctions are strangling the economy? Most definitely.
It's a very knee jerk to jump to a full blown colour revolution.
What format would you like personal opinion citations to be? Something like this?
"I think this looks like a color revolution."
WORKS CITED:
Me, I just said that thing I think
I understand the vitriol but i simply asked if they have something more to suggest that it's a color revolution than "people are burning cop cars in country opposed to US".
I thought it was obvious that i am not waiting for a dissertation and if not, i'm sorry about that.
No worries. I think there was a pretty extensive discussion about the Iran situation further down the megathread that might cover some bases.
Personally I think it's likely that it's a color revolution given the purported video of the woman falling and that the CIA is never not fucking with other nations, but I won't go further than "likely" until further details emerge.
Lol yeah saw the modlog since than and saw it.
I've declared my opinion on other topics.
It was obvious, the dude is just being an ass
I mean yea compare it to hk where we saw protest leaders meeting with American Congress people and reactionaries waving American flags. Like yea we should base our opinions on evidence.
replying "CITATION NEEDED" to someone's opinion is just some weird passive aggressive reddit debatelord shit
How else should the OP have asked for more info backing up the color revolution belief?
Even if he was like "not trying to be a debate bro, but any evidence actually suggesting this?", youd still be all pissy.
Heres a non passive aggressive straight forward comment for you: get over yourself. Not everything is debatebro bullshit
lmao
Sidenote I'm a different poster than divinechaos.
I'm being uncharitable and equating you with other posters in the thread saying it's a slam dunk colour rev and am sorry that I prob read too much into you posting an emote. Your right it was passive aggressive and I probably shouldn't have latched on to your post.
:solidarity:
I mean the fact working class neighborhoods in Iran are protesting the "protests" is a pretty good indication of what's going on
But nah lets all pretend media literacy isn't a thing and assume western outlets are just innocently reporting on a genuine working class movement because they care so much for the Iranian peoples whose livelihoods they've been sanctioning the last 40 years
I didn't assume anything, i wanted something concrete that suggests this is a color revolution, something that has been provided below.
I was talking in general and simply pointing out the concrete was provided the minute western media corporations began emphasizing the protests in a positive light
Media literacy is recognizing media corporates reliant on state access for information do not under any circumstance boost working class movements in the Third World, Chomsky 101 hours