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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.

Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Yesterday's discussion post.

    • summerbl1nd [none/use name]32•2 years ago

      there's a decent amount of nostalgic good-will for the soviet union under stalin in china, you can see it most obviously in nationalist circles like earlier episodes of year hare affair.

      khrushchev ruined everything though. the narrative is that he was basically trying to IMF the chinese by refusing to complete technology transfers started under stalin (and by installing permanent soviet technological 'advisor' positions in china) so as to lock them out of higher value production processes and turn china into a giant banana republic for the soviet union. maintaining what was already transferred during/after the sino-soviet split was a big factor in the whole 'gommunist chyna 100 million dead' under mao, as the economy was still largely agrarian and so a disproportionate amount of production (read: grain) had to be appropriated and turned into capital (sold) to support the more capital intensive higher value processes.

      this is where the socialist imperialist accusations come from, corn boy was kinda an asshole.

      on a side note, the positions have sort of reversed as of the present and i really hope the current chinese leaders learn from history and don't try anything quite so fucking cringe as what corn boy pulled.

    • Fishroot [none/use name]22•2 years ago

      Probably cultural exchanges under the honeymoon phase. It is not infrequent for my grand parents and parents to know about russian literature and sing soviet songs

      Also there are also a certain respect for the Russian for taking initiative (we sometime call the russian our big brother, ironic or unironic) and China is learning from its mistakes to build our own society

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]21•2 years ago

          The shitlibbery is reducing an an entire complex nation and people with a robust history and culture as “just homophobes” as if that’s their only cultural export. This is the same shit libs do with Afghanistan, Syria, Iran to justify invading “evil theocracies”

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]8•2 years ago

              Wonder why Chinese might be wary of Westerners pushing LGBT on them when you are openly demonizing an anti-imperialist bloc forming because it’s “homophobic”.

              Like if you don’t want LGBT rights to be associated with imperialism, stop combining these arguments together yourself

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]17•2 years ago

                  Nope I never said gays were a western conspiracy. I said that chauvinists like you use western progressive stances on social issues to justify imperialism and to smear anti-imperialist states

                  I’m more than happy to separate LGBT issues and imperialism as separate unconnected topics of discussion. It’s you who commented in an effort to fuse them together. I never “ceded the ground”, you did.

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]9•2 years ago

                  As a Syrian refugee of woke imperialist war with dead cousins… I was told to be nice today.

                  The demonizing comes from the immediate jump to accusations of bigotry. flattening of complex cultures and context. Just because the word Russia was mentioned.

                • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M2•2 years ago

                  Code of conduct says the following:

                  Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.(not relevant to this conversation)

                  We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.

                  We are a platform that welcomes anyone who wants to be here in good faith.

                  If you got a bone to pick with someone, try to do it constructively and civilly.

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]11•2 years ago

                  All I know is you hear ‘China and Russia developing friendly cultural alliance’ and you immediately think “this is the homophobia of the evil East”.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]11•2 years ago

          Read the whole comment. They see Russia as a warrior nation willing to fight against NATO, they see it as having beautiful people and culture, desirable tourist destinations and good higher education. Nothing about admiring their homophobia.

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]11•2 years ago

              Oh so your “China and Russia are reactionary homophobes” smear didn’t work so you are pivoting to something else. Stay on topic russophobe

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]10•2 years ago

                  If you hear the good news that 2 anti-imperialist nations are becoming more friendly and immediately start fretting about how it’s only because they are reactionary (without and against all evidence), that is a deep seated chauvinistic belief that needs to be rooted out

                  Sorry I wasn’t polite enough when dealing with imperialist Russophobia that sounds like it’s coming out of the mouth of Hilary Clinton

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]10•2 years ago

                  I have no patience for people who immediately pivot to smearing non-western culture as barbaric to attack the developing friendly alliance of two anti-imperialist states.

                  This is simple minded bigotry against Russians and Chinese, treating them as stupid children who are reactionaries and need to be taught by the enlightened west. It happens in left-ish places constantly as a way to derail anti-imperialist support.

                  Any nation that is the victim of economic colonization and looting will be less developed and will likely be more socially reactionary - as social ideas emerge from economic realities. The west loots and plunders these nations, makes their populations ignorant and destitute and then uses that ignorance as casus belli to further attack and subjugate them as “barbarians”.

                  It’s the same shit they have done to the Middle East for decades, no good communist or anti-imperialist should fall for it. They only do because of baked in Russophobia and a higher prioritization on social issues than on the primary contradiction of war and imperialism. The Western capitalists have spread far more homophobia and killed far more LGBT individuals than Russia ever has. Anyone upvoting this chauvinist should feel deep shame

                  • Frank [he/him, he/him]4•2 years ago

                    I have no patience

                    Much like toddlers, small dogs, and annoying debate club nerds.

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]18•2 years ago

      It's there in the pdf that he upload. Brave, warrior, strong military nation with Soviet nostalgia.