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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
      hexbear
      8
      2 years ago

      Wonder why Chinese might be wary of Westerners pushing LGBT on them when you are openly demonizing an anti-imperialist bloc forming because it’s “homophobic”.

      Like if you don’t want LGBT rights to be associated with imperialism, stop combining these arguments together yourself

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
          hexbear
          17
          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Nope I never said gays were a western conspiracy. I said that chauvinists like you use western progressive stances on social issues to justify imperialism and to smear anti-imperialist states

          I’m more than happy to separate LGBT issues and imperialism as separate unconnected topics of discussion. It’s you who commented in an effort to fuse them together. I never “ceded the ground”, you did.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
          hexbear
          9
          edit-2
          2 years ago

          As a Syrian refugee of woke imperialist war with dead cousins… I was told to be nice today.

          The demonizing comes from the immediate jump to accusations of bigotry. flattening of complex cultures and context. Just because the word Russia was mentioned.

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
              hexbear
              9
              2 years ago

              I get hot and bothered by casual chauvinism and western arrogance. Using what they took from us to bludgeon us. Our societies were more socially progressive until they were destroyed by the west. All progressive and secular movements in the Middle East crushed by western funded fascists. The gains of the USSR lost. Now liberals mock us and claim moral superiority because you beat us back 100 years in development

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
          hexbear
          2
          2 years ago

          Code of conduct says the following:

          Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.(not relevant to this conversation)

          We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.

          We are a platform that welcomes anyone who wants to be here in good faith.

          If you got a bone to pick with someone, try to do it constructively and civilly.

              • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
                hexbear
                12
                2 years ago

                Code of conduct says no, but it does say the following:

                Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every leftist has a place in our community. Discussing differences in theory is fine and encouraged, just don't make it personal. Remember: Sectarianism is liberalism.(not relevant to this conversation)

                We will ban you if you insult, demean or harass anyone. That is not welcome behavior. This is distinctly different than ribbing or grilling someone.

                Likewise any spamming, trolling, flaming, baiting or other attention-stealing behavior is not welcome and will be banned.

                We are a platform that welcomes anyone who wants to be here in good faith.

                If you got a bone to pick with someone, try to do it constructively and civilly. This website isn't a political party where's Mao's "Combat Liberalism" is to be applied, it's a forum for socialists to shoot shit and talk.

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                  hexbear
                  7
                  2 years ago

                  Well we shall agree to disagree then, I feel that imperialism narratives and western chauvinism are worse than being rude and bullying. You feel the inverse. One day it’s going to come to a head and you will ban me for being mean.

                  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
                    hexbear
                    10
                    2 years ago

                    I normally like your stuff dude, just stop being a dick. If you can at least agree to take that under advisement we'll call this event settled.

                  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
                    hexbear
                    6
                    2 years ago

                    Also try to limit the commenting multiple replies, I suggest tacking on whatever you wanted to say with an edit of the initial comment. That's just to keep a more coherent and linear flow of conversation going instead of arguing along 5 different threads with the same person over 20 different topics.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
          hexbear
          11
          2 years ago

          All I know is you hear ‘China and Russia developing friendly cultural alliance’ and you immediately think “this is the homophobia of the evil East”.