Interesting how it's only ever Russia that must be held responsible for crimes 🤔
Well the western countries may be run by bloodthirsty fascists who will murder children without a single thought, but at least they’re white!
A few years ago, a bourgeois colonialist commentator found only this to say in defence of the West: ‘We aren’t angels. But we, at least, feel some remorse.’ What a confession!
Sartre's preface to Fanon's Wretched of the Earth goes pretty hard
Chagos is still illegally held by the UK, despite international court rulings
Ecocide? Nobody uses that word. Jesus christ does everything have to evoke the fucking Holocaust when Westerners are describing the things the big bad evil countries doing
Genocide doesn’t mean anything anymore. This morning my toe was genocided by a corner
Libs can't discuss violence committed by non-western entities without labelling it a genocide, massacre, or any other -cide because then you can have a discussion about the scale, causality, and nature of the violence.
These are words that rightfully illicit a reaction of visceral disgust.
This has a number of effects:
- allows immediate dismissing the motives of parties involved, details of the conflict
- limits sympathetic views towards "the enemy" one could get from attempting to peer through the lens they view the world
- upholds western chauvinism by preventing an accurate portrayal of western and non-western violence
- reinforces thoughtless hatred of anti-imperialist efforts by equating them with some of the most heinous acts in history
- legitimizes western atrocities by selectively applying those labels
The words are thought terminators and have been fully weaponized to eliminate all understanding of conflict.
Anyone who is interested in any discussion beyond immediate disavowal and disgust can now be safely dismissed, lest you get labelled a "genocide denier". The discussion of Lemmygrad on other Lemmy instances is a perfect example of how they wield this to misrepresent their views.
Labelling shit like the Xinjiang allegations and Ukrainian famine as genocide is absolutely a form of holocaust denial. It cheapens very real genocides and massacres in the process by equating mass surveillance and policies that inspired farm owners to destroy crops & livestock with systematic attempts to wipe racial groups and queer people from the face of the Earth. Outside of blood & soil fascists, no one has done more to destigmatize genocide than the people slapping that label on any violence done by enemies of the west.
I mean if you're going to be a "militant environmentalist" or whatever then blowing up dams is generally a good thing
I mean yeah I heavily value environmental causes, but I wouldn't consider myself a militant environmentalist or anything. I don't feel like she has an angle here besides "Russia bad" (which is fine imo, but an incredibly tepid take in the context of the Ukraine conflict ofc)
Unfortunately you guys are expecting way, way too much from Westerners when it comes to the war in Ukraine or anything related to China.
Unless you are an incredibly online internet communist, this is how you view the world
People like Roger waters are the exception outside of Marxist Leninist circles. If someone tells you they are leftwing in the west you can almost bet they are going to be pro Ukraine.
People: "I am such a huge left-winger omg"
Me: :doubt:
There are people that are to the left of basic socdems that want a socialist style system but they are absolute dog shit when it comes to geo politics. The kind that is "ok" with the USA and opposes the evil CCP. I would still say these people are technically "leftwing" they just have terrible stances on some issues.
Usually people that say this type of stuff just loathe Trump or really like Bernie.
The kind that is “ok” with the USA and opposes the evil CCP
No one who thinks this wants to see anything resembling proletarian democracy. Closer to bourgeois capitalism with "people shouldn't have to pay for that" characteristics.
Simping for NATO objectives with a thin veneer of cheering for free healthcare does not make one left-wing.
Wouldn't US Democratic Socialists, for example, fall under that umbrella? Now, I don't operate within those circles, but I imagine they are okay with the existence of the USA as a state, and many of them are at least not fans of China based on what I have seen. Mind you, I'm not in those groups, so I can't speak with any authority on the topic, and my knowledge of anything related to the USA is a mixture of fascination and disgust.
Feel free to enlighten me.
DSA style democratic socialists can vary wildly in my experiences. Local level organizers are usually great. Good people. National level leadership often has no idea what they're talking about, like just last year the national level DSA leadership dissolved their BDS and Palestine solidarity groups.
The leadership seems constantly out of step with what the on-the-ground members usually advocate for. Those types are the ones discussed earlier, they're perfectly fine with an America with more social safety nets rather than proletarian governance.
My fellow Americans who more often fall under the umbrella, of wanting to maintain the basic precepts of capitalism while increasing welfare, those types will be more confused. I mean the ones who arent organized. They'll have a lack of theory going on in their heads and will often identify as both liberal and socialist. They'll typically despise China and Russia, say the USSR wasn't real socialism, everything like that. On hexbear and internet spaces we usually call them radlibs (radical liberals) instead of democratic socialists though.
People like Roger waters are the exception outside of Marxist Leninist circles.
Roger's father was a card carrying communist party member. It is very probable in my opinion that Roger also is.
Roger probably shouldn't be interpreted as "outside of marxist leninist circles".
Cool I didnt know that. That explains some of his positions which certainly arent mainstream in most western artists.
Tupac's parents too, in case you were wondering why he was so fucking cool.
Communist parents of successful musicians seem to do alright. The rest of them seem to produce libs for some reason though. I guess the kids that go into music see the immediate potential of their music for agitation or something and the parents take a larger interest in guiding it? Not sure. There's definitely a phenomenon of communists not taking enough of an interest in guiding their kids into not becoming libs though or we wouldn't have lost so many in generational transitions.
desperately rating the bird-site takes of a 20 year old instead of doing anything fucking useful with my time
Another fine day on hexbear dot net
damn we cant use the teenager excuse any more, that one ruled :chomsky-yes-honey:
this comm is dedicated to dunking on bad takes, so :shrug-outta-hecks:
If she were based, she would be celebrating the river's return to a natural, free-flowing state. AnPrim Russia :anprim-pat: :russia-cool:
Think of the poor agricultural sector that only accounts for 29 percent of greenhouse gas emissions
YES WE WILL DRIVE THEM OFF OUR SOIL
USING OUR BLOOD
SOMEONE SHOULD DO SOMETHING WITH THIS :hypersus:
libs really have no idea why the war happened. Just Russian Orcs behaving like bad guys.
Tbf almost no one on the left in the imperial core is not rabidly racist against russians rn, especially in the uh „north“
fr, they act like nothing happened between ukraine and russia between the years 2014-2020.
One day Putler just woke up and invaded slava Ukraini. Thank god NATO has been training and arming Ukraine for the last decade to invade Russia and hence Ukraine was able to defend itself.
my thing is just, you can still interpret 2014-2020 in a pro ukraine way, obviously ukraine does that. the fact that they act like it was sudden just shows their extreme ignorance
The future is us, pulling a lever marked Lib back and forth forever
Well you didn't include the link so by the rules of this com you are a lib but by explaining all of this I too am a lib for being a nerd
I am 100% certain that this dam collapsed accidentally. If there wasn't a war on, you could do a proper investigation and assign blame, ie "it was THESE explosives" or "it was THOSE artillery shells", but neither side intended for this to happen and it did because the dam wasn't being properly maintained and was taking collateral damage from the fighting.
neither side intended for this to happen
Destroying critical infrastructure has been a strategy of both armies for most of the war.
It's difficult to know exactly who did it, because it doesn't seem to benefit anyone. But this whole war has been a shit show from the start, so who is to say which group might have thought it would work to their advantage.
I think it's likely that Russia rigged it to blow "just in case", but the fact that it was visibly failing before it catastrophically failed, the fact that there were explosions before and after the collapse, the fact that it seems to fuck over both sides all make me pretty sure it wasn't intentional and now both sides are claiming that the other did it and that it's actually good that it happened as a form of cope.
lol imagine thinking dams themselves are not ecocide
