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October 15th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary.

Next thread here!

Just an update on my situation: I'll almost certainly be moving within the next week or two. The last update for a little while will be next Wednesday, the 19th. I'm going to then take a break to set things up, get to know my surroundings and such. I hope to be ready to start doing this again on the 28th, but I will post that week's megathread on the 24th.

After that, I will hopefully be able to keep doing this more consistently and things will get less busy than they have in recent weeks. I strongly appreciate all the compliments I get and I'm glad to be part of such a great community! :Care-Comrade:

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    59
    2 years ago

    The propaganda line that the use of nukes was somehow humanitarian because it saved a billion people from dying in an invasion is seared into the brains of every american.

    Telling them that all the top military officials said it was unnecessary does nothing, telling them that all we needed to do was guarantee they could keep their emperor, WHICH WE DID ANYWAY, does nothing.

    • Hoodoo [love/loves]
      hexbear
      48
      2 years ago

      I think on some level they have to believe it was justified, because the alternative is that they are just as bad as the Nazis. Literally incinerating cities full of infants and children for geopolitical aims.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        49
        2 years ago

        Try to tell them that the firebombing of Tokyo was worse and watch their confusion because they've never heard about the firebombing of Tokyo.

        • Eisenhorn [they/them]
          hexbear
          8
          2 years ago

          They have. I sometimes mentally self harm by reading Texas textbooks. They just didn’t pay attention.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
      hexbear
      16
      2 years ago

      I had to argue the defense for the atom bombing in a high school logic class and my method was to just argue that human life was totally expendable and instant vaporization by nuke was actually a humane way of killing people.

      Terrifyingly I almost won the debate I was so clearly trying to throw.

      • Eisenhorn [they/them]
        hexbear
        14
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        Counterpoint: fire bombs don’t fuck up children decades later who have nothing to do with perpetuating the economic and social base of the current enemy at the time of bombing (a foundational rationalization for total war targeting civilians being ok).

        To be fair: I’d rather be nuked than fire bombed if I had to be the victim of one. Maybe, depends on how far away it detonates I guess.