Here is September 19th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.

Here is September 20th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.

Here is September 21st's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.

Here is September 23rd's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.

Here is September 24th's update! TLDR? Here's the summary.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
    hexbear
    32
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    The initial protests were all saying she was beaten to death in custody. You, as well as I, know that these protests aren’t just randomly happening right now as shit pops off in Armenia, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan and Kyrgyzstan. Iran had moved troops to the border with Armenia to ward off Azeri aspirations (Azeri has imported all the Turkish/Syrian fascist jihadists and they are chomping at the bit for war).

    Get real, these laws have been in place for decades. This is coming to a head now, from a comprador group, for a reason. Because the fascist NATO alliance is calling in favors, and they will happily make Iran and Armenia into fascist jihadist bloodbaths if this is allowed to continue

    Iran should make a good faith show of reform, and if those efforts are swatted down and the rebels keep attacking the Iranian state they should and will be crushed as color revolutionaries

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
      hexbear
      22
      2 years ago

      Those MEK goons are 100% behind this bullshit. And some people here are lapping it up like obedient lapdogs as if we all didn't see what happened in Hong Kong.

      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
        hexbear
        24
        2 years ago

        People don’t break into violent protests over medical aneurisms, they do it over murder. The initial Kurdish protesters claimed she was beaten to death, it was in their communications and chants. There was no murder here.

          • AssadCurse [none/use name]
            hexbear
            23
            2 years ago

            https://www.iranintl.com/en/202209172983

            9/17/22 - London-based (lol) Iranian media claims she is killed with “blows to the head”

            https://www.npr.org/2022/09/21/1124237272/mahsa-amini-iran-women-protest-hijab-morality-police

            “Her father says she was beaten to death in custody”

            https://www.iranintl.com/en/202209165767

            Weird how a London-based gusano media org is the top reporting source on this for western press.

              • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                hexbear
                19
                edit-2
                2 years ago

                How do statements from her father on 9/16/22 not qualify here? This is who sparked the unrest, and the London-based and other western funded media that pushed it, along with comprador groups within Iran

                  • AssadCurse [none/use name]
                    hexbear
                    18
                    2 years ago

                    If what you say is true, I hope Iran comes out with certain exemptions and reforms for Hijab law and morality laws, but somehow I think that wouldn’t matter. Just like Hong Kong protests this has passed the threshold where what sparked it has anything to do with what it has become. All anti-Iran pro-West groups are activated, they are going nuts right now with spook shit in Iran. Israel, Saudi Arabia and US.

                    So it started under false pretenses, an understandably bereaved father made a poor assumption. Then media kept running with it even after they know it’s false. Now western spooks and Israeli and jihadists are hitting the gas.

                    Sorry but this will be crushed. I hope there are some reforms but this particular type of violent protest is not going to work out here. It’s not principled