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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

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Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.

Last week's discussion post.

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]48•2 years ago

    Hot take but China is lowkey trash at doing propaganda, at least in the English language

    Seriously? all they can muster is paying some random white person to go on an obviously guided tour of Xinjiang?

    a bunch of Tankies on Twitter do a better job debunking that Uyghur stuff than the entire propaganda wing of the Communist Party of China

      • A_Serbian_Milf [they/them]22•2 years ago

        The power of having a bipolar political system. Create a fake conflict between two nearly identical parties, make people get really emotionally invested in their team - boom, you now have a more pervasive propaganda apparatus than any centralized state apparatus could come up with. If anyone starts getting skeptical of the bullshit, you just do some more provocative conflict and make them believe the “opposite” party of the one they don’t trust. People just start doing your propaganda for you.

        Downsides: disfunction, internal conflict, political gridlocks, fractured and disunified nation, extremists who start believing the bullshit start getting into power

        Upsides: eternal dialectical capture of the minds of the population

    • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]24•2 years ago

      They stopped all attempts to export the revolution during reform and opening up, reform and opening up has been over since 2014 because of Xi's deliberalization but they still have no interest in a worldwide ideological project.

      I wonder if Xi's making good on the promises of common prosperity will create a new generation of more left wing leaders in China who actually are interested in pushing the communism button.

    • Fishroot [none/use name]22•2 years ago

      if you look at CGNT content, you can clearly see that they don't really care about catering to angloids. Either they are shit at it or they don't give a shit/know that angloids would be irrelevant in the near future

      • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]10•2 years ago

        I mean they clearly do care else why bother with cgtn global times or any english language media at all

        • Fishroot [none/use name]15•2 years ago

          it's for people who already made their minds on China or already in China (expats) but are not super familiar with the language/culture

        • Venusta [any]12•2 years ago

          I don’t speak Chinese so idk if the domestic “propaganda” is any more convincing than the English

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]19•2 years ago

      First of all I don't know where you got the "random white guy" visit from, you should look at this infographic about all the visits to Xinjiang, second for years they kept inviting the US, EU and the UN and they refused. Until the UN visit a few months ago the only people that accepted were mostly Muslim countries and some random western delegations. When the UN finaly decided to visit they did this report

      I think from very early on China was calling the west bluff and trying to make them actualy go there in person and prove it, but they couldn't do it.

      At that point what are you going to do? Do you think the anglos will give a shit if you show the Muslims touring Xinjiang? They'd cry propaganda either way.

      I think for the people that actualy care about finding the truth it is pretty easy to find out Zenz is lying. They did most of what they could, do the interviews, documentaries, let anyone visit if they want.

      YT already puts a giant label on their channel saying "StAtE aFFiLiaTed". There is zero chance westoids will give a flying fuck about what CPC says on official media either way.

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]18•2 years ago

      They don’t need anglo propaganda. The people they are propagandizing aren’t getting posters or shitty tweets, they’re getting massive infrastructure projects that last for generations that improve material conditions a million times more than any “investment” the west has ever done

    • SoyViking [he/him]16•2 years ago

      Either that or they just don't really give a fuck what westoids think. They know that the west needs them more than they need the west.