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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
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    hexbear
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    2 years ago

    There was an article that drove me so insane that I need to quarantine it from the rest of Dipshittery and Cope. You will understand when you get to the end of the third paragraph. Put on your mental defences and proceed.

    • The best China strategy? Defeat Russia. WaPo

    “We are now living in a totally new era,” said the 99-year-old Henry Kissinger, commenting on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. In an op-ed last week, President Biden vividly outlined the stakes. “If Russia does not pay a heavy price for its actions,” he wrote, “it will send a message to other would-be aggressors that they too can seize territory and subjugate other countries. It will put the survival of other peaceful democracies at risk. And it could mark the end of the rules-based international order and open the door to aggression elsewhere, with catastrophic consequences the world over.”

    In times like these, it seemed appropriate that Secretary of State Antony Blinken would deliver a major policy address, which he did late last month. Except that he chose to give the speech … on China. The talk itself contained nothing new; it was slightly more nuanced than the usual chest-thumping that passes for a China strategy these days. The real surprise was that, in the middle of the first major land war in Europe since 1945, with monumental consequences, Blinken chose not to lay out the strategy for victory but instead changed the subject. Washington’s foreign policy establishment is so wrapped up in its pre-crisis thinking that it cannot really digest the fact that the ground has shifted seismically under its feet.

    Blinken declared that despite its aggression in Ukraine, Russia does not pose the greatest threat to the rules-based international order, instead giving that place to China. As Zachary Karabell suggests, this requires a willful blindness to decades of Russian aggression. Russia has invaded Georgia and Ukraine and effectively annexed parts of those countries. It brutally unleashed its air power in Syria, killing thousands of civilians. In responding to Chechnya’s desire for independence, it flattened large parts of the Russian republic, including its capital, with total civilians killed in that conflict estimated to be in the tens of thousands. Vladimir Putin has sent assassination squads to Western countries to kill his enemies, has used money and cyberattacks to disrupt Western democracies, and, most recently, has threatened the use of nuclear weapons. Does any other country even come close?

    Ironically, one of the people who attended Blinken’s speech was Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), who during his presidential campaign in 2012 warned that Russia posed the single largest threat to the United States. Those, including myself, who dismissed his prognosis were wrong, because we looked only at Russia’s strength, which was not impressive. But Romney clearly understood that power in the international realm is measured by a mixture of capabilities and intentions. And though Russia is not a rising giant, it is determined to challenge and divide America and Europe and tear up the rules-based international system. Putin’s Russia is the world’s great spoiler.

    This phenomenon of a declining power becoming the greatest danger to global peace is not unprecedented. In 1914, the country that triggered World War I was Austria-Hungary, an empire in broad decline, and yet one determined to use its military to show the world it still mattered and to teach a harsh lesson to Serbia, which it regarded as a minor, vassal state. Sound familiar?

    America’s dominant priority must be to ensure that Russia does not prevail in its aggression against Ukraine. And right now, trends are moving in the wrong direction. Russian forces are consolidating their gains in eastern Ukraine. Sky-high oil prices have ensured that money continues to flow into Putin’s coffers. Europeans are beginning to talk about off-ramps. Moscow is offering developing nations a deal: Get the West to call off sanctions, it tells them, and it will help export all the grain from Ukraine and Russia and avert famine in many parts of the world. Ukraine’s leaders say it still does not have the weapons and training it needs to fight back effectively.

    The best China strategy right now is to defeat Russia. Xi Jinping made a risky wager in backing Russia strongly on the eve of the invasion. If Russia comes out of this conflict a weak, marginalized country, that will be a serious blow to Xi, who is personally associated with the alliance with Putin. If, on the other hand, Putin survives and somehow manages to stage a comeback, Xi and China will learn an ominous lesson: that the West cannot uphold its rules-based system against a sustained assault.

    Most of the people in top positions in the Biden administration were senior officials in the Obama administration in 2014, when Russia launched its first invasion of Ukraine, annexed Crimea and intervened in eastern Ukraine. They were not able to reverse Moscow’s aggression or even make Putin pay much of a price for it. Perhaps at the time, they saw the greatest threat to global order as the Islamic State, or they were focused on the “pivot” to Asia, or they didn’t prioritize Ukraine enough. Now they have a second chance, but it is likely to be the last.

    • Leper_Messiah [he/him]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      This phenomenon of a declining power becoming the greatest danger to global peace is not unprecedented.

      :wonder-who-thats-for:

      Also, say "rules based international order" one more time motherfucker, i dare you :hst-gun:

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
        hexagon
        M
        hexbear
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        edit-2
        2 years ago

        I feel like these people genuinely believe that America is in an ascendant state above an empire, as if the whole world is now permanently in the thrall of the United States and so America cannot collapse without the entire world collapsing (and it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism). And on that stage that is owned by America, China and Russia are actors on the stage. America, and the system it's created, isn't in the world, it is the world.

        America is a god above the heroes in a Greek play, commenting on them and occasionally trying to bestow wisdom upon them or the smaller nations in the play, or drop lightning bolts on those who are misbehaving (Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, DPRK, etc).

        So that's how these people can make these comments and never think to apply them to their own country.

        • Leper_Messiah [he/him]
          hexbear
          13
          2 years ago

          An honestly terrifying mindset, given that for someone who would truly believe that there is nothing that would be too far

          Any action to preserve that position would be excusable. Scratch a liberal etc etc

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      hexbear
      19
      2 years ago

      decades of [...] aggression. [...] has invaded ... It brutally unleashed its air power [...] killing thousands of civilians. ... it flattened large parts of the [...] republic, including its capital, with total civilians killed in that conflict estimated to be in the tens of thousands. ... sent assassination squads [...] to kill his enemies, ... has used money and cyberattacks to disrupt ... threatened the use of nuclear weapons. Does any other country even come close?

      :wonder-who-thats-for:

      the country that triggered World War I was Austria-Hungary, an empire in broad decline, and yet one determined to use its military to show the world it still mattered and to teach a harsh lesson to Serbia, which it regarded as a minor, vassal state. Sound familiar?

      I'm not projecting, you're projecting!

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
        hexbear
        17
        2 years ago

        Austria-Hungary, an empire in broad decline

        Sounds like the French / UK / Russian alliance will stomp these turds within a few months. A quick, glorious war if ever I saw one. Europeans would be crazy not to fight it out.

    • D61 [any]
      hexbear
      15
      2 years ago

      :blinken:

      Boy oh boy did this emote come in handy.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      hexbear
      12
      2 years ago

      Imagine how mad these libs would get if a Chinese newspaper published an article entitled: "The best America strategy? Help Russia win."

    • plov_mix [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      11
      2 years ago

      When trump authorized his first missile strike in office in 2017, this guy said on CNN “Donald Trump finally became the president!!” And how he’s talking about “rule based” order?

      To say he’s a piece of shit is an insult to manure that actually serves an ecological function

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        12
        2 years ago

        "rule based international order" is my favorite geopolitics phrase because it all but explicitly says "We flagrantly violate international law using our military and financial power to establish hegemony".