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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
    hexbear
    29
    2 years ago

    Just a gentle reminder; Ukraine and Russia are both using a propaganda war. Ukraine is really bad at it, but that doesn't mean you should take Russian sources at face value. Stay skeptical.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexbear
      19
      2 years ago

      While I somewhat agree I do have to ask what you've seen that's been false? I haven't seen anything remotely like the debunks we see against Ukraine and western media for anything from Russia's outlets.

      • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
        hexbear
        16
        2 years ago

        official russian sources have put out some truly absurd maps showing far more of ukraine occupied than is realistic, for example. usually those are easy to spot and ignore tho

      • SoyViking [he/him]
        hexbear
        15
        2 years ago

        The building blocks of propaganda is not lies but focus. Russian propaganda emphasises the stuff that makes them look good and keep quiet about the stuff that makes them look bad. They might not tell (that many) outright lies but they are still presenting a rose-tinted version of reality.

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
          hexbear
          18
          2 years ago

          Random Russian telegrams isn’t the same as official Russian sources. Anyone can create a telegram

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
              hexbear
              17
              2 years ago

              Yes and I’m yet to see a single instance of official Russian sources saying anything false or deceptive since the start of this operation. The extent to which intelslava and other news aggregators stick to the official media they are quite reliable, they become less reliable in areas where they share their opinions or takes. It’s usually pretty easy to tel the difference

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
                hexbear
                12
                2 years ago

                It’s usually pretty easy to tel the difference

                Millions and millions of Americans think that, too.

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                  hexbear
                  9
                  2 years ago

                  Yes and they don’t have the tools of dialectical materialism and Marxian lens to make sense of everything, nor do they have a hobby of learning tons about history and the functioning of society. Trust your comrades to suss out the truth from any sources, cut the condescending hand-holding of “approved sources” that reeks of Liberal credentialism and both-sidesism

              • Maagdenmepper [he/him]
                hexbear
                10
                2 years ago

                Russian sources made up several weird stories about Moskva being sunk because of an accident only for it to be proven by photograph that it got hit by a rocket. Same goes for the Russians lying about not sending in conscripts.

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                  hexbear
                  8
                  edit-2
                  2 years ago

                  It was the Russian MoD sources reporting the boat even sank, and US pentagon sources saying it was towed back to Sevastopol. I still don’t believe there has been conclusive evidence of missiles.

                  • Maagdenmepper [he/him]
                    hexbear
                    4
                    2 years ago

                    https://nos.nl/l/2425578

                    The picture shows two obvious points of external damage at the front and back. At the same time the sea is very calm. At the very least Russia lied about it being an accident on board (since two points of external damage) or that it sunk because of a storm.

                • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
                  hexbear
                  4
                  2 years ago

                  I didn't believe that the Ukrainians sunk the Moskva for a long time because they falsely claimed they had sunk so many Russian ships. The Moskva itself had been reported as sunk at least once before it was actually hit by those missiles.

                • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
                  hexbear
                  7
                  2 years ago

                  Wow so deep. All information is the same and it’s all propaganda and trying to make any sense of it is futile, nothing can be known. Sit back and understand the futility of social science, let the status quo reign