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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • Awoo [she/her]
    hexbear
    22
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    UK backs Lithuania’s plan to lift Russian blockade of Ukraine grain Guardian

    Landsbergis proposed that a naval escort operation – not run by Nato – could protect the grain ships as they headed through the Black Sea and past Russian warships. He suggested that, apart from Britain, countries that were affected by the potential loss of grain such as Egypt could provide the necessary protection.

    They're going to try and drag non-nato countries into the war as proxy-interventionists?

    If nato can't intervene due to nuclear war possibilities then intervention via a non-nuclear nato supported proxy makes logical sense. They will need a reason to get involved though, such as a ship being attacked.

    • euro_chapo [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      15
      2 years ago

      I think this is definitely THE most insane plan I've read since the beginning of this war.

      Churchill himself would be in awe by the sheer idiocy. "Oh yeah boy, I couldn't have though that up better myself! Let's do it, I give you threed cruiser fleets to execute, Admiral!"

      • jackmarxist [any]
        hexbear
        11
        2 years ago

        Average Liberal brain would interpret it as a genius tactical move that will save Ukraine.

    • GoroAkechi [he/him]
      hexbear
      8
      2 years ago

      Wait what non nato country has a navy that will be able to escort ships in the Black Sea? The Dardanelles are closed to warships lmfao

      • Awoo [she/her]
        hexbear
        5
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        Egypt's navy is actually quite capable of doing this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_Egyptian_Navy

        This is probably mostly because of the Suez Canal.

        The reality however is that it will drag Egypt into the war when something happens to their ships and this is what nato would want to happen.

        • GoroAkechi [he/him]
          hexbear
          8
          2 years ago

          You can’t go from the Suez to the Black Sea without passing through the Dardanelles, which are closed to warships

          • Awoo [she/her]
            hexbear
            9
            edit-2
            2 years ago

            Oh I see what you're saying, well I guess they would be expecting Turkey to uhh... Let them through? For reasons Completely ignoring the fact that this issue was already raised earlier in the war and no excuses were found.

            • GoroAkechi [he/him]
              hexbear
              5
              2 years ago

              Turkey letting them through would mean a violation of their own treaties and would mean they essentially couldn’t exercise control over one of the most strategic waterways in the world. It also means the Russian Mediterranean fleet would just try to force the Bosporus or something in response

              • Awoo [she/her]
                hexbear
                4
                edit-2
                2 years ago

                I guess they'd be counting on Russia's unwillingness to do that because Turkey is a member of nato?

                It doesn't make much sense.