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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
    hexbear
    27
    2 years ago

    I could be wrong but my impression so far is that Turkey is not actually all that pleased about supplying all those drones and then seeing them all get destroyed while Ukraine still loses the war. I wonder if they felt they've done their part and this is compensation for it.

    The "Turkish drones are so effective wow" narrative is very much an attempt to make Turkey happy by praising their shit drones. The reality is everyone involved knows they barely do anything but its one of those things you can't just go out and admit it.

    So Turkey may already be pissed overall and this isn't just opportunism.

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
      hexbear
      23
      2 years ago

      Drones are pretty damn good against technologically inferior enemies like Armenia. They are not particularly effective against Russian anti-air and electronic warfare

    • Yanqui_UXO [any]
      hexbear
      18
      2 years ago

      Yes Bayraktars don't seem to be as effective as advertised, or at all. Even though there is a lot of media silence imposed on the Russian side, they seem to make a point to publish every photo and every video of every Bayraktar that's been shot down, there's been so many.

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
        hexagon
        M
        hexbear
        14
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        Is there any genuinely good military equipment being made anymore or is it just national MICs grifting the governments they're parasitically attached to or outright in charge of with high cost equipment that just doesn't actually work?

        Russia's hypersonic missiles seem to function as they should, though it's obviously hard to get a good look at them when they're travelling so quickly. Are their tanks okay? What about in China?

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexbear
          9
          2 years ago

          Hard to say. A lot of America's stuff is very high tech and works in some situations, but hasn't show itself to be effective against a popular insurgency. Russia is coasting on late cold war soviet tech, much of which was very good, and they've been able to modernize a lot of their stuff to keep up with the new high tech toys.

          I think the real issue is that without an industrial base America's whiz-bang science fiction toys can't be replaced faster than they would be destroyed in a real conflict, so the US would rapidly run through it's cool toys and have nothing to replace them with. Also, the US population is such a fucking mess that recruiting a meaningful army would be... uh... very difficult. Can you imagine trying to conscript a million zoomers and keeping them from fragging their officers immediately?

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
              hexbear
              7
              2 years ago

              They could always try to recruit from the Christian Fascists, but if they try to recruit from the general population they'll be training and arming hundreds of thousands or millions of kids who have no loyalty to the government and no faith in authority to do anything but punish them and ruin the world.

          • euro_chapo [comrade/them]
            hexbear
            2
            2 years ago

            Hard to say. A lot of America’s stuff is very high tech and works in some situations, but hasn’t show itself to be effective against a popular insurgency. Russia is coasting on late cold war soviet tech, much of which was very good, and they’ve been able to modernize a lot of their stuff to keep up with the new high tech toys.

            Yeah right now feels like maybe 50% of the Russian success is attributable to all those great late-Soviet missile designs, Kalibrs, Kinzhals, Iskanders...they all seem to work great, Russians have a good supply stock, and the West can do jack and shit about those daily missile strikes.

            Just a reminder for folks because I only realized it after the Seth Harp interview on RWN - Russian dumped 30 (that's right, THIRTY) Kalibrs on the redditor base in Yavoriv on March 13. Ukronazis saying "30 Ukrainians got killed", some Austrian redditor interviewed said at least 60 Westerners got murked. Why can I not hold all this Ukraine winning.

        • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
          hexbear
          6
          2 years ago

          I am not very smart when it comes to these things, have never really been a war need, but I think this depends on what you consider to be military equipment, yeah?

          Like, it seems that modern military conflict is mostly reliant upon information. If militaries are prioritizing information gathering systems, pairing munitions with targeting computers (or whatever the correct jargon is), establishing satellite measures and counter measures, etc. You wouldn't necessarily see this reflected in what we traditionally think of as military hardware so much.

          Also (and this is a bit shaky) I don't really see munitions being built for anything specific If that makes sense. Designing around potentialities leaves designs ungrounded. I'm not sure how to further clarify this point, I hope this much makes sense.