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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
      hexbear
      33
      2 years ago

      Western framing of the Azovstal surrender as an ‘evacuation’ or a ‘retreat’ is incredible. From the fact that they’re all using exactly the same language, I assume they’re just writing exactly what the Ukrainian government has told them?

      According to the recent radio war nerd episode with a western journalist just back from Ukraine, the UKR military basically prohibits journalists from any access to the front lines, active duty troops, hospitals, etc. They set up a ministry of information or something in what used to be a brewery and all the western journos just hang out there on nice couches and do stenography.

      • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
        hexbear
        26
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        i'd say they've handled the information war excellently, but then again it's probably really easy to do that when all western journalists want to do is write adulatory puff pieces and stoke naziesque fears of asiatic hordes lmao

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
          hexbear
          24
          2 years ago

          Yeah I see these takes about Zelensky being super good at media but it doesn't seem that way to me, it just seems like the western journalist is selected by their willingness to believe in a narrative. Hard to fuck up asking for more missiles when there's a legion of english major nerds falling all over themselves to write hagiographies about you.

          • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
            hexbear
            8
            2 years ago

            well, zelensky certainly isn't fucking up his job as a media figurehead for the ukrainian state. he could have fled to lviv when the US asked him to for example, but he stuck around in kyiv (obviously i don't buy the manufactured narrative of him dodging russian assassins and missiles all over the place but still). i think you can give him some credit for not shying away from the danger but instead appearing to face up to it. you could also criticise him for being bloodthirsty to the point of arguing in favour of WW3...

            • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
              hexbear
              9
              2 years ago

              I'm of the opinion that he doesn't really have the freedom to choose. I think their security service has him under their thumb.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
          hexbear
          20
          2 years ago

          There is no denying that the Ukrainian propaganda effort is working excellently for them. It wouldn't work for Russia though, even if they had the same skills and audacity.

          Telling people what they want to hear gas always been orders of magnitude easier than telling them something they hate to hear.

          • chlooooooooooooo [she/her]
            hexbear
            8
            2 years ago

            yeah. i wonder what the situation regarding propaganda and public opinion in russia is like. is it as heavily one-sided as here?

            • SoyViking [he/him]
              hexbear
              12
              2 years ago

              I think Russian media are one-sided and full of propaganda as well but unlike in the west, Russians are aware that it is bullshit.

              • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
                hexbear
                5
                2 years ago

                This was basically the gist I got from a part-Russian sometimes-colleague recently who still has family there.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      hexbear
      21
      2 years ago

      A Danish MSM outlet has a headline that claims that "their mission is completed". You have to read the article in order to figure out that they are not in Ukrainian-controlled territory and nowhere does it mention that the Azov Nazis are essentially POW's.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
        hexbear
        19
        2 years ago

        Worse than POWs, the Russian state duma just passed a bill forbidding trading of Nazi prisoners. POW can normally hope for exchange, Azov will rot in Russian prisons forever

        • SoyViking [he/him]
          hexbear
          17
          2 years ago

          I can't wait for the public trials to start. Nazis will be facing consequences and westoids will be seething and crying about how unfair it is

            • SoyViking [he/him]
              hexbear
              13
              2 years ago

              It seems like the Russian state duma has already passed a law banning the exchange and release of nazis. Maybe there will be trials? It could also be that their will wait holding trials until the war is over and the conflict has cooled down.

              And yes, Russian courts will be kangaroo courts, just like they are in many other capitalist nations. But nonetheless these Nazis are guilty and even a sentence passed by a flawed court will do justice.