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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • SoyViking [he/him]
    hexbear
    28
    2 years ago

    I really hate the liberal take about how the Ukraine war was a grave error for Putin that "backfired" because it made NATO expand into Sweden and Finland.

    Exactly how delusional do you have to be to believe that Russia didn't anticipate this extremely expectable reaction right from the beginning? Even the westoid shitlibs got this one right for Marx' sake.

    And sure, Russia is not happy about a hostile empire stationing troops on their northern borders but exactly what do these liberals think the alternative looked like to Russia?

    The US was rejecting all diplomacy and refusing to compromise. Stoltenberg, that succdem Norwegian ghoul, was taunting Russia, saying that NATO would not deny Ukraine membership. The Kiev government was blatantly ignoring the Minsk agreements, building up troops in the Donbass, insisting on joining NATO and even talking about getting nuclear weapons and invading Crimea.

    A US-controlled Ukraine would have been a national security disaster to Russia. American tanks would have a few hundred kilometres through flat terrain to Moscow. American missiles would be able to hit Russian population centres with little warning. Washington would control gas pipelines of crucial importance to the Russian economy. Russia felt threatened, Cuban missile crisis levels of threatened.

    Maybe the chances of the Ukraine actually being let into NATO was not as great as the chance of the western imperial powers leaving their Ukrainian simps hanging indefinitely. This doesn't preclude military presence of the US or American satellite states however. But even the likelihood of a US-controlled NATO would be reason to extreme concerns in Russia.

    On the other hand Sweden and Finland are already thoroughly integrated in the American empire politically, militarily and economically. NATO expansion here is a threat to Russia and it will lead to increased militarisation and increased tensions in the Baltics but it can in no way be compared with the threat a US-controlled Ukraine would pose.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
        hexbear
        11
        2 years ago

        Western libs usually scoff and roll their eyes when you mention Ukrainian Nazis. I even had one say “enough about the Nazis already” while still trying to discuss Ukraine.

        They don’t take Nazism seriously because they never paid the price for their genocides and slaughter. They think Nazi is a fun insult to toss at Chuds but don’t really think of them as an existential and real threat.

        Russians lost 27 million to Nazism within living memory, and they are seeing those same exact demons arise again from the west.

        • Vncredleader [he/him]
          hexbear
          14
          2 years ago

          These fuckers talked no stop about how Trump was literally Hitler, but when Jews in another country are literally being threatened by actual Nazis, they say "enough about the nazis already". Jesus christ I hate them so much

        • SoyViking [he/him]
          hexbear
          8
          2 years ago

          I think there's a lot of truth to the west never having the full Nazi experience (it was still fucking horrible though). Poland is an interesting exception though, they were absolutely devastated by the Nazis and suffered immensely, yet they are s or me of the banderites' most rabid supporters today.

          • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
            hexbear
            7
            2 years ago

            Poland got too much of the Nazi experience if you know what I mean. All of the best Poles died in WW2, leaving only the collaborators alive