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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]
    hexbear
    51
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    There was a very interesting behind the scenes interview on Radio War Nerd the other day, with the Harper's war correspondent Seth Harp.

    A few things stood out to me:

    • Basically all the western journos get their information from the same source, the official Ukrainian media centre. Reporters are hanging out at this Lviv craft brewery media centre and they all get the same material
    • There is no access to hospitals, and journalists are forbidden report on UKR casualties
    • Harp interviewed a Ukrainian admiral about the foreigners fighting for Ukraine, and he asked about the professionals, western soldiers who could be Green berets, SAS etc, whether if they are in UKR in some kind of official capacity, but before the admiral could answer an intelligence officer stepped in to change the subject of the interview,
    • The amateurs in the international legion are not getting deployed. Many of these westerners in the international legion are frauds, who don't actually do anything, yet the western newspapers interview and quote them like they are some kind of experts on the war
    • The reporting on the Bucha massacre was not some kind of investigative journalism: UKR officials told the western reporters where the bus will be waiting for them, then they got off the bus in Bucha where Azov was already waiting for them, they basically got a guided tour, took some pictures then got back on the bus
    • So Harp decided to go to a few other villages to uncover Russian war crimes, and he asked around the village, but the villagers said that not much happened, no rape and pillage, Russian soldiers mostly kept to themselves
    • Still Harp doesn't say that Russians haven't committed war crimes, or that Bucha isn't real... but the reporting on this topic is definitely suspect
    • Zelensky has a body double parading around, shaking hands
    • Press conferences: most reporters have stock questions and Zelensky is very good at answering these. One Ukrainian journalist asked Zelensky about the Ukrainian oligarchs being involved in the peace talks, that was the only question that made Zelensky uncomfortable and he didn't give a straight answer
    • one Azov base has "WHITE POWER" spray painted on the side of the building
    • Azov is growing

    I listened to this a couple of days ago, so I'm writing this from memory. I recommend listening to it.

    Harp is a correspondent for Harper's and Rolling Stone, so not like a super-anti-establishment Grayzone guy.

    Of course I already knew we should doubt the mainstream narrative... we are definitely getting propaganda fed to us thru MSM

    Inventing Reality and all that :parenti: