"Libertarian" really did mean anarchist originally, it was straight up a synonym. Being a self-described anarchist was outlawed in France and so they adopted the term Libertarian such that they could still operate and have influence with the public. But like so many other cool leftist things, the right stole the term and fooled everyone into thinking it was theirs. Now we have to differentiate between libertarian socialists and american "libertarians" all because fascists are unoriginal and continuously undermine the left by cooption.
I have no idea if that's what ziq means, but if they allow the modern american form of "libertarians" on their site at all, then fuck them all the more, their site is even less leftist than I realized.
Many are well-intentioned libs who are smart enough to see the problems with capitalism, but too lazy to seriously engage with anti-capitalist theory (of any school) and too credulous to question the State Department line on other countries. There's potential, but it's a textbook example of a little education being a dangerous thing.
I love that the anarchists we have here actually read what prior anti-capitalist theorists have to say and have put together that maybe the country most open to anti-capitalist criticism can't be trusted to give you accurate information about its designated enemies.
If you consider yourself an antifascist anarchist, at some point you have to contend with right-libertarianism's explicit synthesis of "small government" politics with nationalist Christian supremacy. Otherwise "fascism" is just a word you use for people you have beef with online.
hahahah omg they have a libertarian section.
Libertarians are a form of anarchist.
Is this a joke? They are not.
Unless you mean libertarian socialists.
I don't see how capitalist libertarians can be anarchists in any way, shape or form.
"Libertarian" really did mean anarchist originally, it was straight up a synonym. Being a self-described anarchist was outlawed in France and so they adopted the term Libertarian such that they could still operate and have influence with the public. But like so many other cool leftist things, the right stole the term and fooled everyone into thinking it was theirs. Now we have to differentiate between libertarian socialists and american "libertarians" all because fascists are unoriginal and continuously undermine the left by cooption.
I have no idea if that's what ziq means, but if they allow the modern american form of "libertarians" on their site at all, then fuck them all the more, their site is even less leftist than I realized.
No it's a straight up libertarian subforum from what I can tell
https://raddle.me/f/Libertarian/115911/libertarian-forum-purpose
:visible-disgust:
I don't know why I sometimes try not to assume the worst.
To be fair to the raddle userbase it's pretty inactive, so I think most of them are not libertarians lol.
Lol so that place is cool but pro-Cuba posts are evil
Absolutely useless forum, just wasted potential
Lol Reddit “anarchists” are just spicy liberals that like appropriating the radical aesthetic example #583739
Many are well-intentioned libs who are smart enough to see the problems with capitalism, but too lazy to seriously engage with anti-capitalist theory (of any school) and too credulous to question the State Department line on other countries. There's potential, but it's a textbook example of a little education being a dangerous thing.
I love that the anarchists we have here actually read what prior anti-capitalist theorists have to say and have put together that maybe the country most open to anti-capitalist criticism can't be trusted to give you accurate information about its designated enemies.
:ancap-good:
man i miss bmf
libertarians are a form of pedophile
:epstein: :maxwell:
If you consider yourself an antifascist anarchist, at some point you have to contend with right-libertarianism's explicit synthesis of "small government" politics with nationalist Christian supremacy. Otherwise "fascism" is just a word you use for people you have beef with online.