October 17th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!

October 18th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!

Next update will be next Friday, but I'll be poking around the thread during that time. Next thread will go up on Monday like usual.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
    hexbear
    59
    2 years ago

    Bloomberg : Twitter Tumbles as US Weighs Security Reviews for Musk Deals

    Biden administration officials are discussing whether the US should subject some of Elon Musk’s ventures to national security reviews, including the deal for Twitter Inc. and SpaceX’s Starlink satellite network, according to people familiar with the matter.

    This one's for anybody who wasn't convinced that Starlink is first and foremost a tool of the US military. Also Twitter is obviously considered a tool of western propaganda if all it takes is Musk suggesting a peace deal with Russia to make the White House want to tank the purchase.

    • AssadCurse [none/use name]
      hexbear
      52
      2 years ago

      lol all Musk had to do to be on the treason watchlist was mention that Ukraine should try to negotiate peace

      • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
        hexbear
        11
        2 years ago

        Yup, but there might also be unease about who he's roping into the Twitter deal with him. The Saudis aren't as close as they used to be.

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
        hexbear
        22
        2 years ago

        That's plausible but seems too ballsy for the democrats to do, their negotiation tactic is to fold and hand over whatever the other side wants in hopes they'll play nice

        • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
          hexbear
          15
          2 years ago

          There's two things they're good at, one is getting money. They don't know how to spend it except on TV ads and staffing payroll (kickbacks for failsons and party insiders), but they can get billions. The other is crushing any left opposition within the party by any means necessary.