October 17th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!
October 18th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary!
Next update will be next Friday, but I'll be poking around the thread during that time. Next thread will go up on Monday like usual.
Links and Stuff
Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to the above list if you can, thank you.
Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins
Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)
Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.
Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.
Telegram Channels
Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.
Pro-Russian
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.
https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.
https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.
https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.
Pro-Ukraine
With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.
Last week's discussion post.
I had a brain genius moment just now and looked up some numbers.
During the height of his powers during WWII Bandera's OUN-B had 20,000 members
The UPA had maybe 100,000 fighters
The Red Army had seven million Ukrainians
The Banderites of today proclaim Bandera as a great hero who fought for Ukrainian independence against the wicked Soviets. They never mention that the Soviets he was fighting against, the Soviets who crushed his fascist insurgent movement and ended his role in the Holocaust, were themselves Ukrainians. It's vital to the Banderite narrative that the Ukrainian Red Army soldiers who fought and died to save the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic from Nazis and scum like Bandera be written out of history, their monuments torn down, their names slandered or forgotten.
"Soviet Occupation" my ass.
I double checked and I'm seeing a couple of different numbers for Ukrainians in the Red Army. The low number is 4.5 million. The high number is 7 million. Either way the casualty numbers are horrific - As many as half of the Ukrainian Red Army soldiers may have died during the course of the war.
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But you see, Ukrainians all hated Stalin for eating all the grain with his giant spoon, they welcomed the Germans as liberators until they started genociding everyone (0.1 seconds after crossing the border) /s
The erasure of the red army from Western historical narrative makes me sad.
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What Cia docs?
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Yeah, a lot of the Banderites who survived WWII crawled off to Amerikkka and Kkklanada and set up lobbying and doing chores for the Cold War. The 'spontaneous" demonstrations of support for Ukraine in NYC were all orchestrated by third generation Banderites.
There were more pro-soviet Ukrainian partisans during WW2 than Ukrainians in the OUN and being a partisan was a lot harder.
Modern propaganda is more into the "Ukrainians never liked Communism" thing that ignores the fact that Ukrainian SSR was established pretty much at the same time as the RFSR and was a founding member of the USSR.