One of the most regrettable things about any socialist/leftist political effort since 2016 has been our collective inability to build off of the momentum generated by Sanders. There are a pitiful number of people in the House, and exactly zero senators who have emerged from this. There are no new lodestars the left can look to in the arena of federal politics, with the exception of maybe AOC. Also rather importantly, the local level did not receive an uptick in socialist candidates. That groundswell was supposed to be the most important part of whatever movement Sanders allegedly was starting.
Well, in a way it did, as many of the organizers for Bernie in local areas became organizers for the BLM protests. And as such many of those people are now facing multiple years in jail, with not much to show for it.
As well, the Bernie movement was badly organized outside of the initial caucus states, Nevada, New York and the West Coast. Maybe a good showing in every single state capital city, but there was barely any organization funding or help. We literally got our Bernie voting merch a day before the primaries here.
Given that I know two people who fit this exact description, one of whom was facing a 2 year for 'Inciting a Riot' (they organized a Facebook event and received six months suspended sentence, still are in a huge debt hole), the other of whom was facing a 20 year sentence using a bunch of legalese that essentially boils down to 'brought a registered firearm to a protest', mind you they were a street medic and never drew their weapon, but it was on them when they were kettled and the city decided to try to bring all guns to bear on that one. It's still under litigation, and they are likely going to see a 3 or 4 year suspended sentence.
And these are for cities that in 2021 immediately voted to raise their police budgets.
That's terrible to hear. I'm so sorry for your friends.
the other of whom was facing a 20 year sentence using a bunch of legalese that essentially boils down to ‘brought a registered firearm to a protest’, mind you they were a street medic and never drew their weapon, but it was on them when they were kettled and the city decided to try to bring all guns to bear on that one. It’s still under litigation, and they are likely going to see a 3 or 4 year suspended sentence.
Has this case been in the media somewhere?
Also, it shows the complete hypocrisy of the way Rittenhouse ahs been treated.
I'm not really at liberty to talk about it specifically, though it is probably in the St.Paul or Minneapolis record system, but it was basically completely overshadowed by the Derek Chauvin verdict, as that one is occuring in Minneapolis. I tried finding an article that talked about the phenomena in Minneapolis generally (as they're not really the only one, just the only one I know), but there are none I can find, sorry.
But yeah, if more people knew about this kind of stuff the Rittenhouse thing would continue to ring hollow. But different police have different tactics, tendencies and approaches, and Wisconsin police really like to let people open carry more than Minnesota cops, because they figure if you are open carrying you are on their side.
I’m not really at liberty to talk about it specifically (...) . I tried finding an article that talked about the phenomena in Minneapolis generally (as they’re not really the only one, just the only one I know), but there are none I can find, sorry.
No problem at all. Thanks for looking in to it. And I understand not wanting to specifically wanting to talk about it.
I think interpreting and focusing on the "the socialist left didnt build off of the momentum generated by Sanders" as "people didnt vote and organize behind democrat entryist campaigns hard enough to have 5 more socdems in the senate and house" and only through the lenses of a failure to increases success in entryist electoral organizing is one the reasons the left indedeed couldnt "build off of the momentum generated by Sanders". Chasing after more AOCs as "lodestars" of the left is a recipe leading to nowhere and has led any socialist movement in any western country to nowhere despite thousands of AOCs and even AOCs winning elections. I simply dont see how this is the lesson and capitalizing the left should have persued regarding all the energy and disillusionment that came from Sanders campaign and defeat. And its because of that wrong follow up to it that surging socdem/demsoc movements in the west never directly moved a country towards socialism and never translated and were never followed by actual socialist organizing exploding from it .
One of the most regrettable things about any socialist/leftist political effort since 2016 has been our collective inability to build off of the momentum generated by Sanders. There are a pitiful number of people in the House, and exactly zero senators who have emerged from this. There are no new lodestars the left can look to in the arena of federal politics, with the exception of maybe AOC. Also rather importantly, the local level did not receive an uptick in socialist candidates. That groundswell was supposed to be the most important part of whatever movement Sanders allegedly was starting.
Well, in a way it did, as many of the organizers for Bernie in local areas became organizers for the BLM protests. And as such many of those people are now facing multiple years in jail, with not much to show for it.
As well, the Bernie movement was badly organized outside of the initial caucus states, Nevada, New York and the West Coast. Maybe a good showing in every single state capital city, but there was barely any organization funding or help. We literally got our Bernie voting merch a day before the primaries here.
Are you serious?
Given that I know two people who fit this exact description, one of whom was facing a 2 year for 'Inciting a Riot' (they organized a Facebook event and received six months suspended sentence, still are in a huge debt hole), the other of whom was facing a 20 year sentence using a bunch of legalese that essentially boils down to 'brought a registered firearm to a protest', mind you they were a street medic and never drew their weapon, but it was on them when they were kettled and the city decided to try to bring all guns to bear on that one. It's still under litigation, and they are likely going to see a 3 or 4 year suspended sentence.
And these are for cities that in 2021 immediately voted to raise their police budgets.
I assume it's similar elsewhere, if not worse.
That's terrible to hear. I'm so sorry for your friends.
Has this case been in the media somewhere?
Also, it shows the complete hypocrisy of the way Rittenhouse ahs been treated.
I'm not really at liberty to talk about it specifically, though it is probably in the St.Paul or Minneapolis record system, but it was basically completely overshadowed by the Derek Chauvin verdict, as that one is occuring in Minneapolis. I tried finding an article that talked about the phenomena in Minneapolis generally (as they're not really the only one, just the only one I know), but there are none I can find, sorry.
But yeah, if more people knew about this kind of stuff the Rittenhouse thing would continue to ring hollow. But different police have different tactics, tendencies and approaches, and Wisconsin police really like to let people open carry more than Minnesota cops, because they figure if you are open carrying you are on their side.
No problem at all. Thanks for looking in to it. And I understand not wanting to specifically wanting to talk about it.
I think interpreting and focusing on the "the socialist left didnt build off of the momentum generated by Sanders" as "people didnt vote and organize behind democrat entryist campaigns hard enough to have 5 more socdems in the senate and house" and only through the lenses of a failure to increases success in entryist electoral organizing is one the reasons the left indedeed couldnt "build off of the momentum generated by Sanders". Chasing after more AOCs as "lodestars" of the left is a recipe leading to nowhere and has led any socialist movement in any western country to nowhere despite thousands of AOCs and even AOCs winning elections. I simply dont see how this is the lesson and capitalizing the left should have persued regarding all the energy and disillusionment that came from Sanders campaign and defeat. And its because of that wrong follow up to it that surging socdem/demsoc movements in the west never directly moved a country towards socialism and never translated and were never followed by actual socialist organizing exploding from it .