now we need to know if she is an eren apologist

  • AOCapitulator [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    The manga/show goes through decent lengths to show the hatred is universal even among common folk through generations of propaganda. Even the eldians in the ghettos are made to hate themselves.

    This is a direct description of what capitalism/ imperialism does to people in the imperial core and to marginalized people

    its either die to racist nazis or live and kill innocent people who prop up the institutes in the crossfire

    "there were no innocent japanese civilians killed by the bombs, they all propped up the empire by contributing to production"

    if we assume genocide is truly the only way for this story, that its wrong in their situation?

    that is a fucking bold assumption, and also Y E S its wrong

    This is a bad bad take, and I do not have the fortitude to endure more of it

    • Tripbin [none/use name]
      hexbear
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      2 years ago

      Can you explain why its such a bad take though? I get that genocide is bad, nobody is actually arguing in favor of it but in the absurd manga they set up a scenario where it was the only option. Other options were tossed around and the explained why they wouldnt work or itd be a big gamble. In the end saying they are wrong for defending themselves seems fucked. My argument isnt that genocide is good or right its that in the manga its justified by their position because they are acting in full self defense. Other innocents dying is a tragedy but again what are they supposed to do. Die and then the manga ends with the facists clinking Champaign glasses together for successfully wiping out a race they didnt like? I get that people think its such a reactionary take but I just cant sit right with a race of people who havent done shit to anyone being wiped out because of their race. I just dont give enough of a shit about a world where its so nornmalized and universal to hate them that there was no opposition to wiping them out from anywhere else.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them]
        hexbear
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        2 years ago

        but I just cant sit right with a race of people who haven't done shit to anyone being wiped out because of their race. Ruling class

        yeah me either

        Maybe the plan should have been to shatter the fascist hegemony and liberate the world by demilitarizing the nazis

        nah, that sounds complicated and difficult, lets just give up because the nazi rulers wouldn't negotiate and blanket the world in nukes, I mean hey! we tried!!

        • Tripbin [none/use name]
          hexbear
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          2 years ago

          Ideally ya. But how would Paradise go about doing that in their short time they had from knowing about the outside worlds intention till the rumbling? Theyre one island against multiple nations who all want them dead and who all are decades if not centuries ahead technologically in certain ways. Also you need willing people. They never really show the common folk having any disagreements or tension with Marleys government. Only the eldians in the ghettos and many of them were pro Marley too. Even if they could instill a revolution with the eldians and with the help of the titans they have I dont see how you topple every countries governments and change the minds of their citizens before they go through with their attack that was a month or two away. They tried with attending that summit thing and pleading a case for peace with the help of the Azumabito family and the entire world told them to fuck off and get ready to die.

          • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
            hexbear
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            2 years ago

            Do not think that if Eren could literally kill the world with his god powers he couldn't just completely obliterate the millitaries of every nation on earth and then continue to do that until everyone surrendered?