now we need to know if she is an eren apologist

  • MsUltraViolet [she/her]
    hexbear
    24
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Anyone who is a fan of that show/manga gives off reactionary vibes, if not just fully fash

      • MsUltraViolet [she/her]
        hexbear
        8
        2 years ago

        I mean, I don't think it's an absolute that if you like it you're a bad person or anything, it's just sus if someone is like a big fan or super into it, until further investigation at least. Same as if someone was like "yeah, my favorite author is Mishima"

      • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        8
        2 years ago

        I got into it as it aired (so, like 10 years ago?), the unpredictability and "seriousness" of the stakes kept me wanting to know more about it. Then the political intrigue happened, and by the point they did the big reveal I was too invested and curious to see where all that would lead.

        It's ideology is suspect at best, but I think it does have some good character moments, and the author manages to show the despair of war pretty well in a couple chapters.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexbear
      11
      2 years ago

      I've criticized it's barely-mask-on fascist ideology before but the treats havers can't handle that. I've heard everything from "it's nonpolitical, the curtains are fucking blue" to "if you see fascism there, you might actually be the fascist."

      :desolate:

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
      hexbear
      9
      2 years ago

      I love the show, but there's no excusing the fact that it's essentially premised on a reality where Jewish analogues are literally capable of becoming monsters and also spent the 2000 years before the antisemites showed up oppressing every other people on earth.

      • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
        hexbear
        6
        2 years ago

        What's interesting about it is that they are a mix of Jewish Holocaust imagery and German (or Japanese, or any ex-fash country) desire to minimise and distance themselves from the crimes of their ancestors. They're saying "can't you see that we are the real victims here?"

        In doing so, they make it seem like the crimes of their ancestors were justified.

        • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
          hexbear
          8
          2 years ago

          I view AoT as posing a world where no one ever comes up with communism. Just reactionary forces learning nothing and getting everyone killed.

    • rubpoll [she/her]
      hexbear
      6
      2 years ago

      It's hard to find anime that doesn't give off absolute reactionary vibes...

      • Cromalin [she/her]
        hexbear
        5
        2 years ago

        Not that hard. There's a lot of reactionary stuff out there, but there's a lot of really good stuff too. And if you expand it to manga and other anime-adjacent artforms there's even more. Even more shit as well, but that's to be expected.