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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Yesterday's discussion post.


    • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
      hexbear
      30
      2 years ago

      I bought some stocks last year and now I'm super pissed at myself, I basically just gave wall st a loan for at least 3 years, going to cash out as soon as I break even, I've learned my lesson

      • jackal [he/him]
        hexbear
        26
        2 years ago

        Last year I was fortunate enough to have saved a bunch of money from remote working and put it into stocks.. already down a comfortable 12% since inception 🙃

        On the flip side buying some I-Bonds turned out to be a good hedge

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
            hexbear
            14
            edit-2
            2 years ago

            The only way you'll actually loose out is if the company goes out of business or you sell. If you bought stocks that've had stable growth over the past years then all you should do is wait out the cross-market drop. Honestly with everything sliding down, whenever it gets close to the bottom would be a good time to also buy into the market and make bank off of the artificial moodswings of "the economy"

            This isn't financial advice of course, just know that if you're gonna dabble in the market know you're essentially gambling - regardless of how educated you may be.

            Edit: also if it's a risky company, just trying to cut your losses at the highest possible point instead of waiting to try and break even may be desirable since you're loosing time and money not reallocating that money into a better option.

            • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
              hexbear
              7
              2 years ago

              Yeah, I plan on just waiting for a while. I have a big move coming up, somewhat unplanned, so no matter what the market does I can't dca into anything. I have some weed stocks, and I also bought paypal after the first big dip only to watch it cut in half so that's nifty.

              • Des [she/her, they/them]
                hexbear
                7
                2 years ago

                i played the GME game, made a bit of $, lost some doing dumb shit after, then just bought some SPY etf to be safe later. now that's cratering.. but hey i feel better for not buying more shares of it because of a "feeling" months ago that turned out right i guess? gambling it is

                • TechnologyMoth [comrade/them,any]
                  hexbear
                  5
                  2 years ago

                  I've honestly lost so much more if not for a few decent swing trades I made on tech. Except I bought one too many times and now I'm bagholding. I'm hoping for one more rip then I can cash out, otherwise eh AMD might be okay in a few years and save me from my weedstocks. I really don't know why I started doing this shit, delusions of greed probably if I'm being honest, or just an extra few bucks to treat myself for a change.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
        hexbear
        7
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        You fools, buy I-bonds. Up to $10,000 per year and their yields are adjusted to match inflation

  • Awoo [she/her]
    hexbear
    48
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    @SeventyTwoTrillion I regret to inform you that your daily digital newspaper effectively makes you into Hexbear's resident trot.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
    hexbear
    45
    2 years ago

    French Socialists, Communists and Greens to ally with Melenchon for a left majority and ‘radical programme’

    :sicko-charging: :left-unity-2: :lets-fucking-go:

  • DeathToBritain [she/her,they/them]
    hexbear
    43
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    boomers at work will not fucking stop showing this Piers Morgan clip of him saying Russia is gonna use a mega undersea nuke to drown Britain in a radioactive tsunami. which, based if Putin does, but that's not gonna fucking happen you morons. Putin is not a great guy, but the only ever country to drop a nuclear bomb in war time and on civilians remains the United States of America, and secondly literally us in doing tests near aboriginal peoples in Australia who were literally not considered legally 'people' at the time but fauna. so yeah, I don't think this is real

  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
    M
    hexbear
    43
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Anti-Americanism is blinding Chinese policy

    You've gotta be kidding me. God, I wish I could make this shit up, I'd be so much funnier.

    China’s unhealthy obsession with Americans is putting its goal of overtaking them at risk.

    With roughly five times the U.S. population and a powerful manufacturing sector, the world’s second-largest economy aspires to take the top spot. Momentum is in question, however. Although Chinese growth accelerated 4.8% in the first quarter while the United States contracted, President Xi Jinping nevertheless ordered officials to ensure that domestic GDP outpaces the United States in 2022, the Wall Street Journal reported. That would imply he’s worried China might not only miss its 5.5% annual target, but even slow below the 3% or so analysts expect from the United States.

    American growth did exceed China’s by over 2 percentage points in the final quarter of last year, but the People’s Republic has consistently outgrown its rival on an annual basis. However, as its ability to boost GDP through investment weakens, the gap has narrowed and official figures look increasingly fluffy. Take the first quarter: the property sector, driving up to a third of output, is stalled, while draconian lockdowns have repressed consumption, yet after adjusting for inflation officials delivered a rosy reading.

    Beijing’s assumption of inevitable conflict is producing a vicious cycle, aggravated by Washington’s tariffs and sanctions against China’s corporate champions. Even so, there is an excess of paranoia. The crackdown on New York-listed technology firms like Didi Global (DIDI.N) is driven by concerns that Americans might somehow steal sensitive data. Officials are willing to risk a recession to eliminate Covid-19 within the borders to show up American epidemiological incompetence. Endorsing Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine will hurt local companies, but state media justify the sacrifice by arguing Moscow’s support is necessary to prevent Washington from “splitting China into puzzle pieces”.

    Infrastructure spending combined with data fudging - artful reweighting of inputs and prices, for example – will prop up China’s stats this year. But that borrows from future growth. The economy needs to expand at around 4.8% per year to meet Xi’s tacit goal of doubling GDP by 2035. A debt crisis or prolonged crackdowns on the private sector would wreck that plan.

    At the same time China’s most pressing problems – a sagging birthrate, falling productivity, a wasteful state sector – are not byproducts of American hegemony, nor can they be outgrown. Competition is healthy, but insecurity is a tax.

    This has critical levels of copium. How the fuck did this breach containment?

    • Fishroot [none/use name]
      hexbear
      37
      2 years ago

      There is a book called the “chinese mirage” that talks about the diplomatic failure because we created an idea of china via think tanks /china specialists that act like yes men for the people who pay them

      • a_fanonist_hexagon [he/him]
        hexbear
        29
        2 years ago

        There's another book called Washington's China that's basically a history of the national security elites and their misinformed ideological viewpoint as regards the People's Republic

        • Fishroot [none/use name]
          hexbear
          13
          2 years ago

          Tbh the post capitalism realism where the consumption is able to influence politics and also human behaviour is fascinating. In a sense the product that those think tanks is selling is basically a false premise where the people who sponser the think tanks is not there to get a real analysis of the situation but more to get what is the good analysis(product) they want

      • Foolio [any]
        hexbear
        27
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        Same thing happened with Russia, which is how you got the "gas station with a country" quips and UK leaders stating that they would never recognize Russia's sovereignty over actual provinces of Russian Federation

        Big issue in general in politics is that the people who report on it and "develop" policy believe their own farts over actual fact-finding or analysis. Thete's a quote from an Obama official that goes like "newspapers used to have foreign bureaus all over the world to get news on foreign affairs. Now they just ask us. The average international reporter is a 27 year old that knows nothing".

        • SadStruggle92 [none/use name]
          hexbear
          9
          2 years ago

          Thete’s a quote from an Obama official that goes like “newspapers used to have foreign bureaus all over the world to get news on foreign affairs. Now they just ask us. The average international reporter is a 27 year old that knows nothing”.

          Y'know I remember years ago reading that print-newspaper was more or less dying as a medium because of intensely low profit margins, and I can't help but imagine that that's a big contributor to this.

          • blight [any]
            hexbear
            6
            2 years ago

            low profit margins

            hmm i wonder if someone may have written about why this happens at some point in time

    • groundling20XX [none/use name]
      hexbear
      9
      2 years ago

      Japan is currently going through it’s civil war lost cause phase as the children and grand children of those in the war need to tell the world their daddy did nothing wrong.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
    hexbear
    40
    2 years ago

    It's very revealing to read articles and media from the 80's and 90's when Japan was the big threat. The same racist vitriol and saber rattling existed even back then, against a country that had US military bases on it. No wonder they're even more charged about China. They can't control it.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
      hexbear
      27
      2 years ago

      Any country that could be a future rival to US interests is quickly considered an enemy, and the American public simply accepts it.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
        hexbear
        2
        2 years ago

        https://www.businessinsider.com/japans-eighties-america-buying-spree-2013-1#it-started-out-innocently-enough--for-instance-some-japanese-automakers-coming-over-to-put-american-parts-in-their-cars-1

        https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674366299

        https://www.nytimes.com/1981/03/04/opinion/please-japan-return-the-favor-occupy-us.html This particular article has the same vibes as "please, Xi" lol

        https://www.nytimes.com/1985/07/28/magazine/the-danger-from-japan.html

        https://www.amazon.com/Trading-Places-Giving-Future-Reclaim/dp/0465086799 Just linking to books I read that did nothing but fearmonger about how Japan is going to take over the United States through economic means.

        https://www.amazon.com/Fifth-Generation-Artificial-Intelligence-Challenge/dp/0201115190/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=The+Fifth+Generation%3A+Artificial+Intelligence+and+Japan%27s+Computer+Challenge+to+the+World&qid=1622661402&s=books&sr=1-1 This particular book sounds a lot like what we're seeing about Chinese AI today.

        https://www.amazon.com/Selling-Out-Industries-Financial-Institutions/dp/0809241528 This is another book about Japan taking over the United States and their way of life.

        https://www.amazon.com/Agents-Influence-Pat-Choate/dp/0394579011 Book about Japanese lobbyists influencing American politics and how Japanese agents are lurking in the government influencing things. Japangate? h

        ttps://www.amazon.com/Coming-War-Japan-George-Friedman/dp/0312058365 Self-explanatory title..

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1992/03/08/hammering-americas-image/bdd81faa-7f68-407e-afb9-dbc96baa718a/

  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
    M
    hexbear
    39
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Worst fears confirmed in Solomons.

    Warning: based content ahead. I repeat, based content ahead.

    The Solomon Islands Prime Minister has launched a tirade in parliament, suggesting Australia and its allies are deliberately trying to undermine his government, criticising the Western response to Russia’s invasion and praising China’s treatment of Christians.

    Manasseh Sogavare has also ratcheted up his criticism of civil society groups in Solomon Islands, suggesting that they are being manipulated by foreign countries and declaring they have “fallen prey to the Western world”. The Prime Minister’s furious denunciation of the West — which was delivered to the parliament of Solomon Islands on Tuesday — has consolidated fears in Canberra about the trajectory of Mr Sogavare’s government, with one official telling the ABC the leader is becoming increasingly autocratic and hostile to Australia after signing a security pact with China.

    Civil society groups in Solomon Islands have criticised the security pact, and say they are concerned by the prospect of Chinese troops or police entering Solomon Islands to suppress future protests. But Mr Sogavare told parliament those activists were “racists” and “bigots” deeply hostile to China who were being manipulated by “foreign masters”. “What we are concerned with … is the glaring hypocrisy which bleeds through the strategies employed by some of our partners, working with some of their agents on the ground, to give the government a hard time for non-justifiable reasons,” he said.

    Mr Sogavare also appeared to mock Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce, who referred to Solomon Islands as a “little Cuba” after news of the draft security treaty broke. That seemed to be a reference to the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, when the United States put up a naval blockade to prevent the Soviet Union from building nuclear missile silos in Cuba, close to US shores.

    Yeah, and the USSR definitely did that completely unprovoked. Literally nothing was going on in Europe, or Turkey, at that time. Just, out of the blue, they put nukes in Cuba.

    Mr Sogavare said the USSR was “not the aggressor” during the 1962 crisis and drew a comparison to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine earlier this year. “There [are] two sides to every situation we see happening in the world today, including the Ukraine crisis, where the Western world is trying to get every nation to condemn,” he said. “There [are] two sides to every story.”

    He also defended China, saying there were “no beggars” on the streets of its major cities, unlike in the West. Some Solomon Islands MPs and civil society groups have criticised the Chinese government’s intensifying and repeated crackdowns on Christians under President Xi Jinping.

    Banned bibles, burnt crosses, and re-education camps — denomination aside, religion is a dangerous pursuit in Xi Jinping’s China in 2018. But Mr Sogavare said the faith was “thriving” in China because believers followed the rules set by government. “I don’t know where these people are coming from, but talking about Christian values … there are more than 120 million real practising Christians in China. Our own churches? 500,000. Half a million,” he said. “This is more serious practising Christians in China than the entire population of the Pacific Island nations including Australia and New Zealand put together. Yes, there are rules. There are restrictions. But Christianity is thriving because they obey the authorities.”

    Mr Sogavare also seemed to latch onto a piece written by an Australian analyst which suggested that the federal government might need to launch an invasion of Solomon Islands if China moved to set up a military base in the country. No government figure in Australia has publicly raised the prospect of invasion.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has described a Chinese military base as a “red line” for Australia and the United States. However, he declined to lay out exactly what he meant by that when pressed by journalists. Mr Sogavare seemed to suggest that option was being contemplated in Australia, saying Solomon Islands had received a “touching warning of military intervention. In other words, we are threatened with invasion. Now that’s serious,” he said. A spokesperson for the Foreign Minister Marise Payne responded to Mr Sogavare’s attack by saying Australia was “deeply committed” to the Pacific. “We respond in times of need, whether that is to natural disasters, economic and health shocks from the COVID-19 pandemic, or to civil unrest of the kind that took place in Solomon Islands late last year,” they said. “We support our Pacific family and always will.”

    Imagine if literally any western nation had an article written about them by a serious politician from a very powerful country, very close to them - say, Russia, or China - that suggested that they should be invaded. And that the leader of that country said that a "red line" had been cross-- y'know what, just imagine Russia and Ukraine, that's what I'm trying to say. This is what it looks like from the opposite side, if the aggressor country and their capitalists had a firm grip on every media outlet and could dictate popular opinion throughout the world, or at least the western world. Anybody who supports Ukraine but is also like "hmmm, well, perhaps the Solomon Islands shouldn't have a potential Chinese base, it's not great, they need to think about the security of other nations bordering them" is an actual fucking circus clown.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      hexbear
      32
      2 years ago

      If a political leader in the imperial periphery goes against the west he is autocratic, furious and tirading. His messages are littered with scare quotes to show how deranged he is. The western-funded astroturfs undermining him are "civil society groups".

      You've got to love the free press of the west!

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
        hexagon
        M
        hexbear
        25
        2 years ago

        You could totally imagine a universe where Australia did a defense pact that China didn't like and Sogavare starts talking about Ughyurs and it's called a "passionate speech" that "is yet one more blow to China's desire to extend their totalitarian government over the planet".

    • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
      hexbear
      3
      2 years ago

      couple clarifications. 1. the article suggesting invasion was not a government or even a major publication. It just managed to get circulated by having a really stupid hot take. 2. The "red line" comment was that Solomon Islands hosting a military base would be a "red line" not that the security pact was a red line. But yeah Australia's government is managing to do everything wrong and giving SI's PM all the ammunition he could hope for.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
    hexbear
    38
    2 years ago

    I watched the TV news for the first-time in ages. The only mention of the war was a few seconds mentioning how Russia expelled some diplomats in retaliation to their diplomats being expelled.

    Liberals are bored of the war.

    • Lundi [none/use name]
      hexbear
      25
      2 years ago

      tbh im bored of the war, shit’s going down everywhere in the global south

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
    hexbear
    37
    2 years ago

    Culturally: Ukrainian nationalists have totally ruined my enjoyment of Lord of the Rings. I knew "orcs" were based on some sort of racial stareotype, but I assumed the fear of an "Asiatic horde" died with the mongol empire. The term being used to instill racial hatred in the 21st century is crazy to me

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
    hexbear
    35
    2 years ago

    China’s Communist Youth League the latest state-backed group to embrace NFTs, with tokens marking its centennial

    :cringe:

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
      hexbear
      8
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      China is not embracing NFTs, that is misleading and there article itself provides the context for this. NFTs are barely tolerated, for now the CPC is banning the worst aspects of it but still experimenting with other applications. This realy one of those shitty click bait headlines where you have to actualy read the article if you don't have prior knowledge.

      Trading and minting NFTs for any other applications are banned. It realy is only tolerated for collecting purposes.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
      hexbear
      31
      2 years ago

      "Let's invade Moldovian territory for no fucking reason."

    • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
      hexbear
      11
      2 years ago

      so they want to steal from their neighbour to bribe their other neighbour to give them something that the other neighbour took away from them but the first neighbour said "no?"

  • anaesidemus [he/him]
    hexbear
    34
    2 years ago

    trying to educate libs about the origins of the phrase Slava Ukraini, they get defensive and start talking about Russian disinformation.

    "Well it's widely used for general support of Ukrainians , I'd think only a minority uses it to commemorate Banderas".

    well, how can we tell the difference?

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
      hexbear
      3
      2 years ago

      Libs freaked out when Trump maybe stuck his arm out at an angle for like a second by accident but do the "it's actually a Hindu symbol" for literal Banderite Nazis.

      I don't agree that anything a fascist does or enjoys is not allowed to be done by normal people, but when it literally has its roots in fascist groups who aided the Nazis then maybe you shouldn't attempt to "reclaim" it because there's nothing to reclaim.

  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
    M
    hexbear
    32
    2 years ago

    The Economist: Why long-term economic growth often disappoints

    Finally, somebody has found an answer to this completely unsolved question that has beguiled us for a century or more.

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
        hexagon
        M
        hexbear
        26
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        It's not even so much that; the article is basically just like "Long term growth is actually linear and not exponential, which is why economists keep predicting new waves of advancement or whatever which never come, or come much later than predicted". This only surprises morons who are conditioned to think that the economy and The Line, aside from the boom-bust cycles, must be getting bigger and higher, faster, all the time, which is physically impossible in a capitalist economy with finite resources - that is, it surprises non-Marxist economists. To say nothing of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall.

        • solidarity_forever [comrade/them]
          hexbear
          18
          2 years ago

          Do the capitalists know what the secret comrades at the Economist are publishing with their money?

          The Economist: Yeah I study theory. :marx:

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
      hexbear
      18
      2 years ago

      Rate of profit: Falls

      Capitalists: "Nobody could have predicted this"

  • ClathrateG [none/use name]
    hexbear
    30
    2 years ago

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/05/israeli-court-evict-1000-palestinians-west-bank-area Land to be repurposed for military use in one of the biggest expulsion decisions since 1967 occupation